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		<title>By: Pastando en Mulgore Portal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Biblioteca de PeM Tomo 7: Paginas y Blogs sobre Paladines.</title>
		<link>http://bossypally.wordpress.com/2010/11/29/lets-talk-about-spirit/#comment-2403</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pastando en Mulgore Portal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Biblioteca de PeM Tomo 7: Paginas y Blogs sobre Paladines.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 07:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Control o control de masas) tenemos disponibles según la party en donde nos encontremos o una excelente guia de como afecta el Espíritu a los Paladines sagrados lleno de gráficos y ejemplos, un blog muy [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Control o control de masas) tenemos disponibles según la party en donde nos encontremos o una excelente guia de como afecta el Espíritu a los Paladines sagrados lleno de gráficos y ejemplos, un blog muy [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Light and How to Swing It: The relationship between intellect and spirit &#8211; WOWICIDE</title>
		<link>http://bossypally.wordpress.com/2010/11/29/lets-talk-about-spirit/#comment-2290</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Light and How to Swing It: The relationship between intellect and spirit &#8211; WOWICIDE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 22:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] many people don&#8217;t know is that the mana regeneration you receive from spirit actually scales with the amount of total mana you have. Because having more mana means you get more regeneration [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] many people don&#8217;t know is that the mana regeneration you receive from spirit actually scales with the amount of total mana you have. Because having more mana means you get more regeneration [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ophelie</title>
		<link>http://bossypally.wordpress.com/2010/11/29/lets-talk-about-spirit/#comment-2285</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ophelie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 00:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can click on it to make it bigger :)

I don&#039;t think I&#039;ll ever get the hang of theorycrafting, each time I fool around with numbers, I discover tons of stuff I didn&#039;t know. Nothing is ever as easy at it seems! But on the bright side, if I don&#039;t know something, chances are many other don&#039;t know about it, so it makes for great blogging material.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can click on it to make it bigger <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll ever get the hang of theorycrafting, each time I fool around with numbers, I discover tons of stuff I didn&#8217;t know. Nothing is ever as easy at it seems! But on the bright side, if I don&#8217;t know something, chances are many other don&#8217;t know about it, so it makes for great blogging material.</p>
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		<title>By: Skip Cocoa</title>
		<link>http://bossypally.wordpress.com/2010/11/29/lets-talk-about-spirit/#comment-2282</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skip Cocoa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 20:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[*squints at graph*

My god, you&#039;ve become a theory crafter.

I... I don&#039;t think I know you anymore...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*squints at graph*</p>
<p>My god, you&#8217;ve become a theory crafter.</p>
<p>I&#8230; I don&#8217;t think I know you anymore&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ophelie</title>
		<link>http://bossypally.wordpress.com/2010/11/29/lets-talk-about-spirit/#comment-2271</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ophelie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks! I hope the post was as clear as I intended it to be. I wanted it to be accessible to anyone, but it&#039;s always hard to tell how easy a post is to understand when you write it yourself.

1) I don&#039;t know of any other than our Meditation specialization (50%). I suppose talents might be added/changed over the course of the expansion if needed.

2) Kurn would be a better person to ask since she&#039;s actually seen what happens at 85. Right now I&#039;m going to enchant/gear/gem with the mentality that I want a lot of Intellect. If I have mana issues, I&#039;ll gradually add more Spirit. Where I&#039;ll add that spirit- whether it be gemming, gearing, enchanting or reforging will depend on my needs or on what numbers are pegged as ideal by the Math Gurus.

Intellect is a major throughput stat (since it increases spell power and crit) as well as a mana stat, so I don&#039;t want to sacrifice more of it than I have to.

I haven&#039;t looked into weapon enchants yet (I like to experience things on my own), but between the two you described, I&#039;d side with Power Torrent, unless there&#039;s a major difference between the amount of spirit boosted by Heartsong and the amount of int boosted by Power Torrent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks! I hope the post was as clear as I intended it to be. I wanted it to be accessible to anyone, but it&#8217;s always hard to tell how easy a post is to understand when you write it yourself.</p>
<p>1) I don&#8217;t know of any other than our Meditation specialization (50%). I suppose talents might be added/changed over the course of the expansion if needed.</p>
<p>2) Kurn would be a better person to ask since she&#8217;s actually seen what happens at 85. Right now I&#8217;m going to enchant/gear/gem with the mentality that I want a lot of Intellect. If I have mana issues, I&#8217;ll gradually add more Spirit. Where I&#8217;ll add that spirit- whether it be gemming, gearing, enchanting or reforging will depend on my needs or on what numbers are pegged as ideal by the Math Gurus.</p>
<p>Intellect is a major throughput stat (since it increases spell power and crit) as well as a mana stat, so I don&#8217;t want to sacrifice more of it than I have to.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t looked into weapon enchants yet (I like to experience things on my own), but between the two you described, I&#8217;d side with Power Torrent, unless there&#8217;s a major difference between the amount of spirit boosted by Heartsong and the amount of int boosted by Power Torrent.</p>
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		<title>By: Oestrus</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 14:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a really excellent post, Ophelie.  I can tell you put a lot of thought and effort into researching this and you make the numbers and graphs seem less intimidating.  Kudos!

I can&#039;t seem to get WoWHead or any talent calculators to work at the office, but I was curious about a couple of things.

1) Do paladins have any talents that return mana based on the amount of spirit that you have?  I know healers, in general come with the Meditation talent.  I know holy priests have Holy Concentration.  I was wondering if there were any more incentives other than Meditation, as far as talents that holy paladins had as inspiration to start using more spirit.

2) What about enchants?  There seem to be a good amount of spirit enchants that will be available in Cataclysm.  Chest, bracers, etc.  Do you feel that paladins would be using those enchants or do you feel they should be gemming for it (like a spellpower/spirit gem) or using the spirit already on their gear and not making room for more, etc.  

Same with weapon enchants.  Do you feel that Power Torrent (the chance to increase intellect, based on heal/cast) would be the de facto choice for paladins or do you see them using Heartsong (the chance to increase spirit based on cast) like other healers probably will?

I will certainly RT this when I get home.  I can&#039;t seem to do RT from the cell phone version of Twitter.  Curses!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a really excellent post, Ophelie.  I can tell you put a lot of thought and effort into researching this and you make the numbers and graphs seem less intimidating.  Kudos!</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t seem to get WoWHead or any talent calculators to work at the office, but I was curious about a couple of things.</p>
<p>1) Do paladins have any talents that return mana based on the amount of spirit that you have?  I know healers, in general come with the Meditation talent.  I know holy priests have Holy Concentration.  I was wondering if there were any more incentives other than Meditation, as far as talents that holy paladins had as inspiration to start using more spirit.</p>
<p>2) What about enchants?  There seem to be a good amount of spirit enchants that will be available in Cataclysm.  Chest, bracers, etc.  Do you feel that paladins would be using those enchants or do you feel they should be gemming for it (like a spellpower/spirit gem) or using the spirit already on their gear and not making room for more, etc.  </p>
<p>Same with weapon enchants.  Do you feel that Power Torrent (the chance to increase intellect, based on heal/cast) would be the de facto choice for paladins or do you see them using Heartsong (the chance to increase spirit based on cast) like other healers probably will?</p>
<p>I will certainly RT this when I get home.  I can&#8217;t seem to do RT from the cell phone version of Twitter.  Curses!</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://bossypally.wordpress.com/2010/11/29/lets-talk-about-spirit/#comment-2269</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Meditation/Intensity is baseline for all healers now. The 5 second rule priests and druids had is gone now, and there&#039;s just in-combat and out of combat regen (still expressed in mana-per-5).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meditation/Intensity is baseline for all healers now. The 5 second rule priests and druids had is gone now, and there&#8217;s just in-combat and out of combat regen (still expressed in mana-per-5).</p>
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		<title>By: pockie</title>
		<link>http://bossypally.wordpress.com/2010/11/29/lets-talk-about-spirit/#comment-2265</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pockie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 04:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oops :P That&#039;s interesting that spirit is so much better now for pallies (granted it was completely useless before...) 

I&#039;m tempted to resubscribe for Cata so this is useful stuff!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  That&#8217;s interesting that spirit is so much better now for pallies (granted it was completely useless before&#8230;) </p>
<p>I&#8217;m tempted to resubscribe for Cata so this is useful stuff!</p>
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		<title>By: Ophelie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ophelie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 04:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Things &lt;em&gt;have &lt;/em&gt;really changed. 

While I&#039;m not 100% sure of the mechanics of &quot;in combat regen&quot; and casting (although  I&#039;m getting an idea of how to test it), the mana regen directly from spirit (in the spirit tab) is, yes, tied to the 5 second rule.
&lt;em&gt;
Combat Regen&lt;/em&gt; (which is new from 4.0.1), however, doesn&#039;t specify whether or not you&#039;re casting. So I assume it doesn&#039;t matter- it&#039;s the mana you&#039;re getting back while you&#039;re in combat, period. According to the data I got when I made the graph, Combat Regen is always 219+half of the value of spirit based mana at level 80, due to our &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wowhead.com/spell=95859&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Meditation &lt;/a&gt;specialization. (I suppose that for a ret or prot paladin, Combat Regen will always be 219 at level 80)

I still think Intellect is better, at least for now, but some guides were even telling paladins to completely regem spirit when 4.0.1 dropped.

EDIT: Actually the Armory displays mana regen in terms of casting and not casting and yes, Combat Regen is mana regenned while casting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things <em>have </em>really changed. </p>
<p>While I&#8217;m not 100% sure of the mechanics of &#8220;in combat regen&#8221; and casting (although  I&#8217;m getting an idea of how to test it), the mana regen directly from spirit (in the spirit tab) is, yes, tied to the 5 second rule.<br />
<em><br />
Combat Regen</em> (which is new from 4.0.1), however, doesn&#8217;t specify whether or not you&#8217;re casting. So I assume it doesn&#8217;t matter- it&#8217;s the mana you&#8217;re getting back while you&#8217;re in combat, period. According to the data I got when I made the graph, Combat Regen is always 219+half of the value of spirit based mana at level 80, due to our <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/spell=95859" rel="nofollow">Meditation </a>specialization. (I suppose that for a ret or prot paladin, Combat Regen will always be 219 at level 80)</p>
<p>I still think Intellect is better, at least for now, but some guides were even telling paladins to completely regem spirit when 4.0.1 dropped.</p>
<p>EDIT: Actually the Armory displays mana regen in terms of casting and not casting and yes, Combat Regen is mana regenned while casting.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 04:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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