Comments on: Holy Paladin Reforging

By: Ophelie

Ophelie — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 18:55:55 +0000

I’d see how it would be useful in heroics (and possibly in 10 mans but I haven’t seen enough fights to know for sure) because there’s frequent, little, random damage. The damage on 25 man is too intense for the little 1-5k bubbles to be worth much. That said, there seems to be paladins rocking crit/mastery at high levels of play and really liking it.

It’s just hard to know exactly what it’s doing since WoL doesn’t record it. According to EJ, it’s weak on paper, but paper and practice are two different things.

By: Oestrus

Oestrus — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 16:36:21 +0000

I remember Kurn saying something about it being useful and that she was reforging a portion of gear to mastery. I admit, I don’t remember the finer points of the conversation – other than “reforge” and “to mastery” came up and I remember some positive inflections being tossed in there.

You may want to compare notes with her about that, unless her feelings or position has changed and she no longer feels that way.

By: Ophelie

Ophelie — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 00:21:07 +0000

That’s a really good point about Infusion of Light! It completely slipped my mind as I was writing the post. I’ll add a blurb about that.

I prefer Divine Light over Flash of Light too, but I think it’s an individual thing. One of the pallies in my guild loves Flash of Light and she performs just as well as I do. The issue I have with FoL is that it just doesn’t heal enough for it’s cost. It’s helpful in situations where .5 seconds will make the difference between a save and a death or when you want a lot of hps, but most of the time it doesn’t feel worth it.

By: Palaria

Palaria — Thu, 23 Dec 2010 21:51:51 +0000

Did my first 10man last night, and I have found that I need a bit more haste so I can better use Divine Light, or I need to use Flash of Light more (I hate casting it for some odd reason)

One thing that should be noted about crit, with every Holy Shock Crit = an almost instant Divine Light.

I foresee Paladin’s getting around 2k haste and then stacking Crit

By: Ophelie

Ophelie — Thu, 23 Dec 2010 18:13:15 +0000

It’s a delicate balance for sure, and I’m really enjoying playing with my gear to find what works best for me and my guild’s composition.

I have one spirit trinket, but I actually reforged part of it to haste… I feel like blindly stacking spirit is a waste (with the exception of new 85s learning the class and being mistreated in 5 man pugs), but at the same time, having mana to spare can make the difference between a wipe and an epic save.

By: Ophelie

Ophelie — Thu, 23 Dec 2010 18:01:43 +0000

I guess it’s kind of like how us paladins just blindingly stacked intellect throughout Wrath ^_^

I wish we had an exciting mastery. And a mastery that showed up on World of Logs. It’s so frustrating to have a stat on our gear that no one knows exactly what it does!

By: Ophelie

Ophelie — Thu, 23 Dec 2010 17:59:44 +0000

I’m thinking of doing that as well. I’m having a lot of fun with haste right now, but I’m curious to see what’s it like to play with crit. Plus, with how much easier it is to stack crit, I wonder if I’m swimming upstream by trying to get more haste.

By: Ophelie

Ophelie — Thu, 23 Dec 2010 17:57:34 +0000

If the stats you’re going for are already on the item, then it won’t let you reforge it anyway.

For holy paladins, I’m not sure of the benefit of going for a specific build versus spreading out stats equally. Personally, I like going for a particular build since it helps with spell selection and general playstyle.

I haven’t tanked in a long time, but from what I recall, there’s a delicate balance in stats that you want to achieve, that you get by mixmatching gear, so I would assume that if you’re able to reach that balance with your gear as is, then you don’t want to mess it up by reforging. But, this is all just speculation since I’m very out of the loop for tanking and I don’t know the current stat priorities.

By: Exul

Exul — Thu, 23 Dec 2010 17:50:50 +0000

I agree with your thoughts, and do the same haste/spirit reforging. We’re currently 10m 5/12 + Argaloth and I find the haste well spent. I see a lot of spike dmg to tanks where fast heals are necessary (and WoG saves my a**). I’m ~1300 haste and 3k combat mp5. With FoL at 1.22 in raid I will continue to get haste but am trying to see what playing with spirit trinkets will gain. OOM is always a danger with new progression when things aren’t yet fine tuned.

Same thoughts on mastery. It might be good later, but just doesn’t seem worth it yet.

By: Ophelie

Ophelie — Thu, 23 Dec 2010 16:36:46 +0000

Yeah, I’m thinking the same as well. I suppose we have so many instants that letting us have a 1 second GCD would be OP.

As well, I didn’t do the math to test the number, I’m counting on the EJ number crunchers to not lie to me!