Comments on: Holy Paladin 4.1 Mastery with World of Logs Pictures

By: Ophelie

Ophelie — Tue, 10 May 2011 22:20:47 +0000

That would make sense. The number of Illuminated Healing ticks is always almost equal to the number of casts triggering Mastery (and when it’s not equal, it’s not under by much), but that would just mean that the shields are being used. Illuminated Healing shields are really small compared to Power Word: Shield, and compared to the amount of damage taken by people affected by IH.

Here are some log browser samples of PW:S:
[18:57:21.506] Magrin gains Power Word: Shield from Shouryuken (Remaining: 28949)
[18:57:25.521] Magrin’s Power Word: Shield is refreshed by Shouryuken (Remaining: 14251)
[18:57:26.787] Balzac casts Power Word: Shield on Thrizzy
[18:57:27.193] Thrizzy gains Power Word: Shield from Balzac (Remaining: 35564)

And here are some from IH:
[18:57:19.443] Magrin gains Illuminated Healing from Glowinglight (Remaining: 1554)
[18:57:20.303] Glowinglight’s Illuminated Healing fades from Magrin (Remaining: 0)
[18:57:21.459] Kragsbubble gains Illuminated Healing from Glowinglight (Remaining: 2079)
[18:57:21.506] Glowinglight’s Illuminated Healing fades from Kragsbubble (Remaining: 0)
[18:57:22.662] Kragsbubble gains Illuminated Healing from Nerradain (Remaining: 7291)

By: Zahia

Zahia — Tue, 10 May 2011 10:23:41 +0000

“The 200 Illuminated Healing ticks not due to Divine Light were probably due to Light of Dawns and Holy Shocks, which explains why the reported Illuminated Healing average was so low”
I don’t know how Illuminated Healing is calculated by WoL, but I suppose it works like Power Word: Shield, and this could alone explain the low average healing.
In fact the number of shields is the number of time a shield absorbs something, not the number of shields casted. If you cast a 10k shield on someone who take 5 x 2k damage, WoL will show 5 shields of 2k and not one big 10k shield.

By: Ophelie

Ophelie — Sun, 08 May 2011 13:39:56 +0000

It’s nice to see the discussion shifting from “MASTERY IS TEH SUXOR!” to “Well, I consider Mastery.” I do agree with everyone who says our Mastery is boring (it’s so, so, so passive!), but I do like the concept of a soaker between heals.

I don’t think the averages recorded on WoL are really representative of what Mastery is really doing: the 800s from Light of Dawn and the 6000s from Divine Light are worlds away from either other; but it is interesting to see the low overheal and the overall percentage of healing done from Mastery.

By: Ophelie

Ophelie — Sun, 08 May 2011 13:33:32 +0000

I see Spirit kind of an “as needed” stat: if you’re swimming in mana, lean towards more throughput, but if you’re running low on mana, focus on regen.

One thing I found interesting when my Baby Pally hit 85 was that she could keep people alive as easily as my main could When I took her to Tol Barad, she did as much healing as the geared priest did. She just couldn’t do it for as long. As much as I hate to admit it, being a fan of big numbers and all, I think mana supply really is the main determinant of how well we’ll heal.

That said, I’m (as my main) currently in a really casual guild, so it’s not like I get a lot of selection when it comes to gear, ha! I take what I can get.

By: Handisias

Handisias — Sat, 07 May 2011 22:41:50 +0000

I agree with the spirit/int way of healing, mastery is too insufficient and my throughput is awesome enough to not worry about crit. Mana regeneration for those longer fights seems to still be the way to go.

By: Silkain

Silkain — Sat, 07 May 2011 07:00:25 +0000

I find guaranteed healing from the mastery on shields more useful than maybe a crit. One is guaranteed and will reduce the healing output needed the other might.

I’m not reforged to mastery though, I’ve gone the intellect/spirit route for my gems and gear and I am in mostly 359′s . That said looking at my logs illuminated healing puts out between 1.6k to 2.5k for me and I do notice it now having an impact on fights that are damage intensive if anything the shield gives us breathing room. And no matter how you look at it the free healing off mastery is mana saved all the time you use any heal that proc’s it.

If anyone is interested in my logs they can find me on wow logs under the guild Tyrian Alliance name Silkain we do 10 man regular on normal.

By: Ophelie

Ophelie — Fri, 06 May 2011 13:59:40 +0000

The Mastery seems to be gobbled up well by DPS, but since most of their shields come Light of Dawn or Holy Shock and not Divine Light, I wonder how useful those shields actually are. I guess every little bit counts though.

I have yet to see my logs since the patch (I’ve only healed once and didn’t take logs), so I don’t know how my shields are looking. I’m a bit over 10 Mastery and in a casual guild where I can get away with using Holy Light more often than not, so I’m thinking of keeping the same reforging scheme for now.

By: Joe Ego

Joe Ego — Thu, 05 May 2011 22:01:02 +0000

I can’t pull up my armory right now to check my Mastery, but I am trying it out based on similar observations. H Halfus I am not reforging away from the Mastery on my gear, while most fights I go for Haste > Mastery > Crit. I prefer Haste for H Chimaeron.

With only H Maloriak attempts to look at so far, 3 Holy Paladins were seeing 8% to 10% due to Mastery and a minimum overheal (wasted shield, yeah?) of about 40%. This fight sees us doing 40% or less of our healing on tanks, letting our Beacons prop them up while we raid heal the swill-eaters. From the logs it looks like a good portion of shields on dps were useful, meaning they were taking swill damage often.

I don’t want to link logs until after tonight so I can better compare between different fights.